I was having a really tough time with recall and sustainable reward in Barn Hunt and Fast CAT with my Pharaoh Hound. Sometimes he'd love a treat or toy and the next time he'd be completely indifferent and run off to galavant. But this thing is a HIT. Tough enough for shakes and whips and digging at. But small enough to keep in my pocket or hide in my armpit. I do wish I could get coyote/ racoon, coyote only or coon only. The fur is tougher than rabbit and this dog likes to tear at it.